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Shell Perris leads Alive Ministries, helping families worship. She also oversees family ministries at Big Church and Creation Fest, and is part of The Lions, equipping Christians in business. Gary Spicer, a leader in The Lions under Imagine the Day, manages the Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer and Big Church Festival. He has ties to the Edmiston family, who are Christian funders. In their talk with Emma Fowle, they discussed entrepreneurship, money in church, and supporting Christian business leaders.